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@AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] I was halfway through typing a howto mastodon message to one of the tech assholes in my life when I suddenly realized I was happier with them on bluesky, where they’ll never see my posts. and they can join the other tech assholes in chattering about how clever its godawful protocol and DID are, which is a great substitute for happiness when your brain’s this flooded with capitalism
@zzt @AnarchoNinaWrites@oliphant.social wait, someone who thinks atproto isn't just NIH by blockchain idiots?
@zzt @AnarchoNinaWrites@oliphant.social you could always recommend c.im to them, sounds like they'd fit in great. emacs.ch for the worst ones.
@davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] oh god that’s mean
I’m fucking doing it
@davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] a lot of these tech assholes are former(?) blockchain idiots, so they’re right at home. the awkward part is they all keep doing the “blockchains are world changing technology, have you heard of them” thing in unrelated conversations, but now it’s the DID instead
@zzt @AnarchoNinaWrites@oliphant.social guess which technological cancerous growth DID came from
@davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] oh boy, pure guess? was it an attempt to establish permanent identity for DAO votes or NFT authorship or another concept that makes me die inside?
@zzt @AnarchoNinaWrites@oliphant.social W3C DID (Decentralised Identity) is a shockingly underspecified "protocol" intended to implement ID on the blockchain without saying the word "blockchain".
This is because blockchain grifters, but also consultancies like Microsoft and IBM wanted to sell this bullshit.
Logically, there are two ways to do this: (a) customer service is impossible (you drop your iPhone in a puddle and you don't exist any more), or (b) customer service is possible (Microsoft or IBM are the vendor). W3C DID was written for this important vaporware constituency.
All the important bits of W3C DID are vendor-specified. Until now, there was one implementation, which was decentralised to an AD node on Azure. Bluesky's is the second, and it's an implementation that implements a tiny bit of the spec to give everyone their own personal GUID, with the central point of control in the decentralised system being Bluesky.
Why do this? Because they're crypto bros.
@davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] hahaha my feelings on this are running the full spectrum of emotions from “I knew my stank detectors sensed a crypto grift” to “wait that’s it, that’s what the tech assholes in my life won’t shut up about?” it’s all the same people falling for the same affinity scam every time
e: this is the shortest, fluffiest W3C spec I’ve ever hate read
@zzt @AnarchoNinaWrites@oliphant.social fucking isn't it, makes activitypub look detailed
and apub is actually useful
@davidgerard
I don't dispute the strange bedfellows of DID, but there are lots of implementations of it?
@jonny are there? I thought the only one claiming to be W3C DID was Microsoft's
@jonny certainly there are a ton of things that do a similar job to the degree bsky's does
Kinda the opposite to Google really.
@zzt @davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] I've seen a good bit of DID related hype, and very little that addresses the ICN naming tradeoff or Zooko's triangle, like I mentioned in this thread: https://ioc.exchange/@invisv/110340876158716262
If it's useful, here's the paper on the ICN naming tradeoff: http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/pubs/networking/ICSI_namingincontentoriented11.pdf
@invisv @davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] from that thread: holy shit, the DIDcomm spec is comically bad https://identity.foundation/didcomm-messaging/spec/v2.0/ I’m up to the part where they specify SHOULD guidelines for how to pronounce file extensions
@davidgerard @zzt @invisv @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social]
Here's the best user-story I ever saw, courtesy of some DID startup.
https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/01/user-stories-from-the-blokechain/
@Edent @davidgerard @zzt @invisv @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social]
When your user story is an r/incels rage comic
@zzt @invisv @davidgerard @AnarchoNinaWrites [oliphant.social] seen the phrase "Self-Sovereign Identities".
So is this the Nazis of Lisp again, David (fx: "Sultans of Swing")? Will the earl of the galaxy ban you from using the highest quality monads if you pronounce it wrong?
@chiffchaff @zzt @invisv @AnarchoNinaWrites@oliphant.social not actually them, but certainly a related cluster with increasing crossover (Urbit now has a dependency on Ethereum, it uses the Eth blockchain as its user identification source of truth)